Section A - Cooling System, continued.....
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Radiators, Modine]] Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:23:10 EDT From: MWood24020@aol.com To:
Steve-
I definitely think Mr. Barker was joshing with you. As a matter of fact
(supposition?), I think he was paying all of you a somewhat backhanded
compliment!
Mike
PS: Astro Chrome will have my motorcycle stuff by Monday. Thanks again for the
tip.
Subject: Re: u s radiators
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:57:18 -0700
From: Bob Palmer
To: "Joe Hankins"
CC: :@ames.ucsd.edu
Joe,
In a "normal" radiator, all of the tubes are in parallel between the two
end tanks. To make such a radiator a two or three pass, the end tanks are
blocked off so as to make it into two or three sections that flow in series.
I certainly agree that slower flow velocity doesn't correlate one-to-one
with cooling capacity. I will borrow the chemist's concept here of a "rate
limiting step" and apply it to the radiator. Then, usually the rate
limiting step is transfer of heat between the radiator surfaces and the
air. Usually, the coolant flow is fast enough not to be a limiting factor.
This can be confirmed by measuring the temperature drop between inlet and
outlet. If there is a small temperature drop relative the the radiator/air
temperature difference, then coolant flow is not limiting. It is amusing to
me in this regard that the U.S. Radiator people brag about a bigger
temperature difference with the three-pass versus the single pass. What
they are actually pointing out is the PROBLEM with a three pass when it
overly restricts the water flow.
Bob
At 09:38 AM 8/31/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Guys,
>
>I'll freely admit that I'm not entirely clear on how radiators are
>constructed, so I'd appreciate it if you could set me straight on the
>difference between single pass and 3 pass. Ididn't realize that one was a
>series arrangement and the other was parallel.
>
>The effects of bends are not neglible, by the way. But, they can be
>accounted for by considering them to be an added length of pipe.
>
>The key point is the one Brian made. Reistance to flow, which would have
>the effect of reducing the velocity of the water in the radiator, doesn't
>translate directly into poorer cooling.
>
>Joe
>
Robert L. Palmer
Dept. of AMES, Univ. of Calif., San Diego
rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu
rpalmer@cts.com
Subject: Re: Ford and Volvo fans
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:19:02 -0600
From: "John Crawley"
To: Ray McCrary
CC: tigers@autox.team.net
Hi Ray:
The Volvo fan O.D. seems to be 14 1/4 when measured with my carpenter's
tape. The center hole is 1 3/16.
The part no is Volvo 683541 IMP 69 34.
The four locating holes line up with the TIGER pump and I have successful
used them for centering the fan but a better
install is to use the Volvo aluminum spacer turned down to 1/4 in thickness
as this will give exact centering.
Godspeed
Jc
Subject: Re: Coolants
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:51:40 EDT
From: BMcgu22954@aol.com
To: STUART_BRENNAN@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com, tigers@autox.team.net
The orange stuff can be purchased as Texaco-Havoline Dexcool.
It is a silicate and phosphate-free ethelene glycol antifreeze/coolant.
Supposed to protect against aluminum corrosion.
I use it in my '95 Jeep, '84 Toyota, '90 Ford, '66 Tiger.
I mix it 25% , plus Water Wetter in the Tiger, with no overheating
discharge.(so far)
Bruce McGuire
Subject: Re: Hot Tiger in Houston & Volvo
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:51:30 -0600
From: "John Crawley"
To:
CC: Joe Parlanti,
"Tiger's Den"
The Volvo fan O.D. seems to be 14 1/4 when measured with my carpenter's
tape. The center hole is 1 3/16.
The part no is Volvo 683541 IMP 69 34.
The four locating holes line up with the TIGER pump and I have successful
used them for centering the fan but a better install is to use the Volvo
aluminum spacer turned down to 1/4 in thickness as this will give exact
centering.
Godspeed
Jc
Subject: Another current Ford Part Number
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:48:19 -0700
From: Dave Binkley
To: "'Tiger List'"
I picked up a new right angle heater hose fitting, the one that goes into
the intake manifold just behind the thermostat housing, today at the local
Ford dealer. The current part number is C6AZ-18599-B.
Dave
Subject: Re: Need lower rad hose p/n
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:58:46 PST
From: "Bill Lawrence"
To: tigers@autox.team.net, lrw@aop.com, CoolVT@aol.com
Tigers,
My Mk1A required the NAPA 7746 lower radiator hose, not the NAPA 7775.
With a little trimming it fit fine. Thankyou for the suggestions.
After replacing the driver's side motor mount, thank you Sunbeam
Specialties for your prompt turn around time, Ifinally had an
opportunity to blow the lizards out of my Tiger.
I have a couple questions, is there a "oversized" lift dot stud? Or
perhaps one with a fine thread machine/lock nut combo? The passenger
side male connector that holds the tonneau cover/softtop in place has
come loose. It is a coarse thread, screw in type, and frankly was
always stressed even before the restoration. I am looking for
suggestions, because the coarse screw threads are not biting into the
sheet metal.
I also have a set of 6 13X6" Panasport lights (9lbs each) that I have
saved from my Datsun 510. I know the bolt pattern is different, but,
what about the offset? I believe these are a 23 positive (approxomately,
4.0" from rim edge to hub) , what is the proper offset for a Sunbeam
Tiger? Would it be worth it to re-size the bolt pattern to utilize
these wheels?
Bill Lawrence
Ft. Lauderdale
>>>>>NAPA Part No. 7775 will fit the TIGER, just cut 5 inches off the
larger
end. The hose's shape will fit perfectly and even has allowances to
follow
the shape of the Tiger frame.
>
>The lower hose I purchased for my IA a few years ago was Lower #7746
>
>Upper #7459
> These were both NAPA #'s Mark L<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>
Subject: Radiators for sale
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:43:03 EST
From: PLRRESTO@aol.com
To: tigers@autox.team.net
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Price: $400 plus shipping; FOB San Jose, CA
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Reisentz Restorations
408-369-0470
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